France Wedding Photographers

Find Wedding Photographers in or near France

Our France photographers also provide documentary-style coverage in: Paris, Marseille, Lyon, Toulouse, Nice, Nantes, Strasbourg, Montpellier, Bordeaux, Lille, Ille-et-Vilaine

Planning an intimate wedding, elopement, or engagement portrait session in France?

Discover the best photographers! - We can capture the happiness and closeness of your intimate, non-traditional, symbolic, or at-home wedding. The WPJA has an abundance of top-ranked, France documentary wedding photographers available right now who understand that some weddings can’t wait. Find yours today!

Capture Your Dream France Elopement: Photographers Available

Imagine your intimate France wedding: just you, your partner, your officiant, perhaps a few select companions, and a photographer capturing the moments. Find the perfect photographer near you to create lasting memories.

Europe WPJA members are ready to document any self solemnization, courthouse, civil ceremony, or any other type of elopement wedding, even if it is a Monday-Thursday ceremony. Search for the “Can Shoot Weddings on Short Notice!” message on the listings below.

146 France Wedding Photographers...

Paris wedding photography by Coralie Garavel of the France WPJA

Coralie Garavel, a wedding reportage photographer, was born and raised in France. With a love for the arts and manual work, she discovered her passion for photography while capturing moments at a friend's wedding. Since 2015, Coralie has photographed around 80 weddings...

2400 (EUR)
Toulouse wedding photography by Nicolas Issaly of Haute-Garonne Occitanie, France

Drawing from his extensive experience as a documentary wedding photographer, Nicolas Issaly seamlessly combines his passion for travel and zest for life to create extraordinary and captivating wedding photographs.

1800 (EUR)
BW image of Vincent Dupin, a Lot-et-Garonne wedding photographer

Vincent Dupin, a wedding photographer from Agen with three children, born near Bordeaux in 1979, specializes in capturing emotions and moments during weddings using reportage, portraiture, creativity, and journalism. Educated in Spain, Paris, and abroad.

1500 (EUR)
Portrait of Europe Wedding Reportage Photographer Audrey Dubessay

With a passion for capturing candid moments, Audrey Dubessay is a wedding photojournalist. With a background in graphic design, her photographs tell stories that will be cherished forever.

2550 (EUR)
Sylvain Neugnot, French Wedding Photographer

Sylvain Neugnot is a French documentary wedding photographer who left his job as a project manager to pursue his passion for capturing life's beautiful moments. With a blend of rock and sweetness, Sylvain aims to capture the essence of each couple's personality on...

1750 (EUR)
Wedding and elopement photos by Pierrick Roland

Pierrick Roland is a traveling destination documentary wedding photographer and videographer. A few years ago, he purchased his first SLR and was instantly captivated by the art of composing images and capturing intimate moments.

2390 (EUR)
Centre-Val de Loire and Indre wedding photography by Gaelle Caré of France

Gaelle Caré, an Indre wedding photographer, is passionate about capturing the essence of living life to its fullest, documenting genuine emotions and moments with her camera.

1970 (EUR)
Metz wedding photography by Jonathan Fortuna of Grand Est, Moselle

Hailing from France, Jonathan Fortuna is a skilled wedding photojournalist known for his exquisite reportage photography. With a background in family portraits and a passion for the movie industry, he brings a unique perspective to every project.

1800 (EUR)
Pauline Pasquette - Studio portrait of a photographer of weddings, pregnancy, family, events

With over 10 years of experience, Pauline Pasquette is a wedding photographer and lover of love. She captures moments and strives to fulfill her clients' vision. Graduating from a photography program in France in 2016, Pauline's passion for photography started in...

2000 (EUR)
Poitiers wedding photography by Corentin Azamoun of the Vienne, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France WPJA

Corentin Azamoun, a talented documentary wedding photographer from France, uses his expertise in capturing emotions and his love for creativity to create incredible wedding memories.

1600 (EUR)
France wedding photography by Angelique Blaise

A documentary wedding photographer based in France, Angelique Blaise combines her engineering background with a passion for photography to create authentic and timeless memories for couples.

1300 (EUR)
Lifestyle Portrait of Tommy Loska, a Destination Wedding Photographer

Tommy Loska is a wedding photographer from Beaujolais, France. With a degree in Multimedia from Puy en Velay, he has been specializing in portrait photography for over 10 years and capturing unique wedding moments for over 5 years in Auvergne Rhône-Alpes, France, and other...

2400 (EUR)
BW studio portrait of a French photographer for country weddings - William Desse

Based in Pyrénées-Atlantiques, William Desse is a skilled wedding photojournalist who combines his love for outdoor adventures with his passion for capturing organic and candid moments.

2000 (EUR)
Black and white studio portrait of France wedding photographer Guillaume Planat

Guillaume Planat, a wedding photographer from Aveyron, now based in Montpellier, Occitanie, trained in a Montreal photographic studio. He is skilled in freezing moments during weddings and studio sessions.

1890 (EUR)
WPJA POY Trophy-Winner William Lambelet - Wedding and Elopement Photographer

William Lambelet began his career as a wedding photographer in 2009. He has a special talent for capturing real moments at weddings using a photojournalistic approach. With his unique perspective, he documents every detail of the special day, no matter how big or small.

2100 (EUR)
Isabelle Bazin - Wedding and Elopement Photography- isasouri photo

Combining her skillful storytelling craft with a documentary approach, Isabelle Bazin, an award-winning photographer with 25 years of experience, preserves the unique story of each wedding she photographs.

990 (EUR)
Wedding photography by Celia Dussaussois of Hauts-de-France, Oise

Celia Dussaussois is an Oise-based wedding photographer living in a small apartment near the forest with her fiancé and cat. She's shy, loves to observe and pay attention to emotions, capturing meaningful images of connection and love.

1850 (EUR)
Wedding elopement and photography by Oliver Saillard of France

Oliver Saillard is a French wedding photographer with a passion for capturing people's special moments. With a love for travel and a commitment to reducing his carbon footprint, he incorporates his adventurous spirit into his work. With a focus on wedding photography,...

1500 (EUR)
Studio portrait of Grenoble, Isere wedding photographer Florian Fauvarque

Florian Fauvarque, a documentary wedding photographer based in Grenoble, honed his skills by capturing cherished memories since he was a child. Having found his true calling, Florian's captivating photographs tell an authentic story.

990 (EUR)
BW lifestyle portrait of Camille Demolliens, a Poitiers wedding photographer of the WPJA in Vienne Nouvelle-Aquitaine France

Camille Demolliens, a documentary wedding photographer based in Poitiers, combines her expertise in psychomotor therapy to capture the raw emotions and create exquisite images of each event she covers.

1500 (EUR)
A lifestyle portrait of Sandy Manancourt, a documentary wedding photographer

Sandy Manancourt is a documentary wedding photographer, passionate about capturing the raw emotions and authentic moments of couples on their wedding day. With her unique storytelling approach, she creates timeless imagery that reflects the true essence of love.

1250 (EUR)
Engagement shoots + wedding photography and elopements by Luan Nguyen of France

Luan Nguyen, a French wedding photographer, specializes in capturing sincere and natural emotions. With a background in automotive engineering, Luan followed his passion for photography and now enjoys creating candid and heartfelt images.

2400 (EUR)
Grenoble wedding photography by Chloe Perez of the Auvergne-Rhone-Alpes WPJA

Chloe Perez, the wedding photographer, was born in Montreal and currently resides in Grenoble, Isère. With an eco-conscious lifestyle, she prefers colorful and authentic photography to capture real moments that tell her clients' unique stories.

1900 (EUR)
France Elopement and Wedding Photographer Hong-Phuc Bui, of Le Comptoir Photo

With a documentary approach, Hong Phuc takes a visual storytelling perspective, capturing the emotion and spontaneity of every moment, and also the details of a wedding day or the sweeping expanse of a landscape.

1500 (EUR)
Var wedding photography by Marion Deletraz of PACA France

Marion Deletraz, renowned as a documentary wedding photographer, seamlessly integrates her expertise in image reporting, speech therapy, and animal mediation. With an unparalleled skill set, she skillfully documents the heartfelt moments that make each couple's day...

1500 (EUR)
UK wedding reportage photography by Elodie Ruelleux-Dagorne

Elodie Ruelleux Dagorne is a documentary wedding photographer who has traveled the world, drawing on her background in the music industry and her love for nature and wildlife photography to create stunning wedding images.

350/hour (EUR)
Hauts-de-France and Lille elopement and wedding reportage photography by Estelle Carlier
250/hour (EUR)
Lifestyle portrait of French wedding photographer Elodie Micciche

Elodie Micciche, a wedding photographer based in Grenoble, France, specializes in vibrant weddings. Fluent in English and Spanish, she holds a Master's degree in Language Sciences with a focus on deafness and pursued a CAP photographer diploma.

1600 (EUR)
Image of Jody Priour, a Calvados Normandy wedding photographer in France

Jody Priour has a diverse background in electricity, driving schools, and autonomous homes, which has shaped her skills as a documentary wedding photographer in Calvados.

1400 (EUR)
Occitanie wedding photography by Anais Bertrand of Haute-Garonne, Toulouse

Anaïs Bertrand, 38, is an experienced wedding photographer and illustrator based in Toulouse, France. As a mother of two, she is also adept at capturing special family moments. Her unique background in both photography and illustration allows her to capture and preserve...

1900 (EUR)
Studio portrait of French wedding reportage photographer David Blateyron

Wedding photographer David Blateyron, from Puy-de-Dôme, France, began in 2017. Inspired by French photographers and filmmakers, his jazzy style transforms simple moments into epic pictures, believing everyone deserves a remarkable photo for future generations.

1500 (EUR)
Lyon Wedding Photography by Elise Julliard of Rhone, Auvergne-Rhone-Alpes, France

Elise Julliard is a France-based wedding photographer passionate about nature and exploring. With 8 years of experience, she captures emotions, connections and the beauty of light with every shot.

2000 (EUR)
Grand Est Wedding Photography by Pierre Saint Remy of the France WPJA

Pierre Saint Remy is a wedding photographer since 2021, with a background in images since 2013. He holds a master's degree in multimedia and has worked in the French army, where he developed his photography skills through field reporting and operations.

1350 (EUR)
Engagements + wedding and elopement photography by Jeremie Sangare

Jeremie Sangare is a France-based traveling wedding photographer and videographer with a passion for documenting weddings in a photojournalistic and authentic style, capturing emotion and in-between moments.

3000 (EUR)
Studio portrait of Nouvelle-Aquitaine wedding photographer Benjamin Dupuy

Benjamin Dupuy is a young photographer who discovered his love for the craft at a young age. Starting out by making videos for YouTube, he eventually shifted his focus to photography and found success at a young age. With 7 years of experience and a strong technical...

1500 (EUR)
Oise elopement and wedding photography by Frederic Bry of the Hauts-de-France WPJA

Frederic Bry is an Oise wedding photographer, and a proud father of two young children. Since 2017, being a dad has allowed him to understand the importance of pictures and the memories they preserve.

1600 (EUR)
Samantha Pastoor wedding photography

Samantha Pastoor is a dedicated wedding photojournalist with a lifelong passion for capturing moments of love and joy. Inspired by her father's images, she honed her skills in the darkroom, developing a unique storytelling approach.

2000 (EUR)
BW street portrait of Bordeaux wedding photographer Nicolas Duffaure

Skilled and experienced wedding photographer Nicolas Duffaure, from Bordeaux, France. Capturing special moments through the lens is more than a passion for Nicolas – it's a lifelong love that he has honed through practice and mentorship from his photographer father. He...

250/hour (EUR)
Lifestyle portrait of Catherine Roujean, a Toulouse wedding photographer from Haute-Garonne

Catherine Roujean is a skilled wedding photojournalist based in Toulouse. She is an experienced artist with a wide range of photography expertise, including darkroom, studio, and reportage techniques.

1500 (EUR)
France wedding and elopement photography by Charly Fromentin

Charly Fromentin is a France wedding photojournalist who has a passion for capturing the genuine emotions and intimate moments of couples on their special day. With his unique lifestyle approach, he has been photographing weddings for many years.

1500 (EUR)
Self-portrait of France wedding photographer Ariane Duplaceau

Ariane Duplaceau, based in France, started photography at 9. She hones her wedding craft with online courses and captures authentic moments discreetly.

1900 (EUR)
BW studio portrait of French wedding photographer Thomas Vigliano

Thomas Vigliano is a wedding photographer based in Chambéry, Aix-les Bains, Annecy, and the Rhône-Alpes region. He is a nature lover, sports enthusiast, and avid traveler. With a passion for storytelling through powerful images, Thomas captures emotions and memories that...

1700 (EUR)
Engagement Portraits by top Wedding and Elopement Photographer Sylvain Bouzat

Sylvain Bouzat is a well-traveled wedding photographer with a knack for capturing real moments. Since 2010, he has been using his artistic skills to create documentary wedding photos and reportages. Sylvain specializes in elopements and engagement portraits, bringing a...

4200 (EUR)
BW Studio Portrait of Lyon Wedding Photographer Emilie Roy of Rhône, Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes, France

Emilie Roy, born in Croix-Rousse, with a Savoyard background, started photography early, mastering film and digital techniques. Passionate about capturing memories, she embraces each meeting, based in Croix-Rousse.

1600 (EUR)
Limoges wedding photography by Laetitia Boiron of Haute-Vienne Nouvelle-Aquitaine France

Laetitia Boiron is a nature-loving wedding photographer based in Limoges and Orléans. With a background in artistic professions and a love for creative expression, she combines semiotics and nature to capture genuine emotions, love, and complicity between couples. Her...

280 (EUR)
Lifestyle Portrait of Kevin Marzin - Nantes Wedding Photographer in France

Kevin Marzin is a wedding photographer who is passionate about using his skills to capture the raw emotions of life's precious moments. He strives to tell your story by focusing on the natural essence of the day, discretely documenting important moments. With the goal...

1600 (EUR)
Black and white lifestyle portrait of Landes wedding photographer Lisa Baquerin - The Nouvelle-Aquitaine France WPJA

Lisa Baquerin is a wedding photographer from Landes, France. After discovering her passion for photography and completing her education in law, she pursued a career in wedding photography. Lisa's dedication and support from loved ones led her to successfully book her...

1400 (EUR)
Lifestyle portrait of Elsa Radureau, a wedding photographer of the WPJA in Haute-Savoie, Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes, France

Elsa Radureau: Professional wedding photographer from Haute-Savoie, France. Banker-turned-photographer with 20 years of experience. Known for her loving, energetic approach and attention to detail. Based in Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes.

1800 (EUR)
Centre-Val de Loire & Loiret wedding photography by Tiphaine Delauzun of France

Tiphaine Delauzun, a wedding photographer in Orléans, Loiret (45), with 3+ years of experience, specializes in wedding photo reportage in Centre Region, honed through her background in travel photo reportage in Oceania. She prioritizes getting to know clients, resulting in...

2000 (EUR)
wedding photography by Franck Petit

Franck Petit is a passionate French wedding photographer with experience since 2012. He is inspired by moments of joy and love, which he has dedicated himself to capture since personal experience.

1900 (EUR)
France wedding photography in a documentary style by Florian Maguin

Florian Maguin is an experienced France-based wedding photographer who has been in business since 2013. In that time, he has captured over 100 weddings, giving each couple special, custom-crafted photos that are both documentary style and creatively styled.

2000 (EUR)
France wedding and elopement photography by Didier Ropers
1600 (EUR)
France couple engagement photo sessions, elopements and wedding photography by Guillaume Tranquard

Guillaume Tranquard is a French visual storyteller and professional wedding photographer, known for his journalistic style that captures authentic and intimate moments of love and life.

2390 (EUR)

Emil Boczek is a Europe wedding photographer who takes a documentary approach to storytelling through visual media. With over 25 years of experience, he is based in the UK and captures authentic moments of love without interfering with the wedding day.

1550 (GBP)
England engagement, wedding and elopement photography by Hollie Mateer of M and G Wedding Photography

Hollie Mateer is an East Yorkshire-based wedding photographer known for her unique, unposed style. Drawing inspiration from photographers like William Eggleston and Diane Arbus, she captures authentic moments that truly reflect couples and their special day. With a...

2500 (GBP)
Wedding photographer Bart Rondeel

Bart Rondeel, a skilled wedding photojournalist based in Europe, channels his creative energy into capturing authentic moments that tell a couple's unique love story.

1995 (EUR)
Lifestyle Portrait of Europe Wedding Photographer Jeremy Sauterel

Jeremy Sauterel is a destination wedding photographer, specializing in capturing the special moments of a wedding day. Experienced since 2019, Jeremy also enjoys portrait and landscape photography, exploring the great outdoors and indulging in his love of pasta.

3500 (CHF)
Portrait of Paolo Blocar, Wedding and Elopement Photographer of Aria di Foto

Paolo Blocar, a seasoned wedding photojournalist, comes from a family of photographers. Based in the city, he is passionate about technology, cinema, and exploring different cultures through his lens.

2200 (EUR)
Serenay Lokcetin - Wedding Reportage Photographer

Serenay Lokcetin, a visual storyteller and destination wedding photographer with 6 years of experience, utilizes a journalistic style to immortalize the unique moments of each couple's special day, focusing on emotions and cultural richness.

800 (EUR)
BW portrait of Mark Wallis, Europe wedding reportage photographer

With a documentary approach, Mark Wallis competently tells the visual story of your wedding, using an unobtrusive style to capture the genuine and intimate moments that unfold throughout the day.

1450 (GBP)
London elopement wedding reportage photographer Lyndsey Goddard, of England UK

Lyndsey Goddard's documentary approach to photography allows her to tell a visual story. With her background in Fine Art and qualifications from the University of the Arts in London, she brings a unique perspective to her wedding work. By capturing honest and...

3250 (GBP)
Wedding, engagement and elopement photography by Nilufer Nalbantoglu

Nilufer Nalbantoglu is a wedding photographer who discovered her passion for photography as a child, inspired by her father and tinkering with old cameras. After starting out in the world of textiles and furniture photography, she found her calling in capturing the...

800 (EUR)
Bucharest wedding and elopement photography by Petrica Tanase - Romania

Petrica Tanase applies his journalistic approach to wedding photography, drawing from 14 years of experience as a photojournalist for national newspapers and agencies.

1800 (EUR)
Portrait of wedding and elopement photographer Alessandro Vargiu

With a documentary approach to storytelling, Alessandro Vargiu showcases his expertise as a professional wedding photographer based in Turin, Italy. His visually stunning work has garnered attention and acclaim and has been featured in numerous websites, magazines, and...

2000 (EUR)
Cristina Tanase is a Wedding and Engagement Photographer

Cristina Tanase, a wedding photographer, licensed in journalism and philosophy, began her photography career as a studio photographer in 1999. Embracing a documentary approach to storytelling, she specializes in capturing genuine emotions and depicting real people through...

1600 (EUR)
Lifestyle portrait of Judith Kuivenhoven, a wedding photographer for Europe

With a passion for storytelling and a keen eye for candid moments, Judith Kuivenhoven is a documentary wedding photographer who masterfully documents love stories amidst picturesque European landscapes.

1195 (EUR)

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France Wedding, Elopement and Engagement Images by WPJA Photographers

Below are some France wedding photography samples from the world’s best wedding photographers of the WPJA. Some of these France marriage pictures might be artistic portraits, details, or documentary-style images that have come from getting ready sessions, wedding ceremonies, reception venues, or France engagement portrait sessions with couples.

In Nice, the bride and groom's son looks at a book during group photos, creating a minimalist scene under a vast sky.
A couple's engagement portrait on a French beach, waves gently rolling onto the sand.
Thénac, Dordogne, France - The Chartreuse: Guests enthusiastically vie for the bridal bouquet during a lively toss. A moment of joyful chaos and tradition.
At Gite L'essentiel in Fond de France, children enjoy playing with an oversized Connect 4 chip game.
In Lyon, France, a couple poses in front of a greenhouse, with soft-focus foliage in the foreground adding a dreamy, natural touch to the scene.
In France, a couple stands near the Rock waterfall, captured in a center-framed black-and-white wide shot, highlighting the dramatic and timeless beauty of their surroundings.
At Lacanau Océan in France, a couple enjoys a session by the ocean's edge, where the rhythmic waves and coastal beauty frame their shared joy and connection.
In Bordeaux, France, a couple kisses, captured from a low angle beneath back-to-back benches, adding a unique perspective to their romantic exchange.
In the heart of Chamonix’s winter wonderland, a couple is captured in an artistic pre-wedding session, surrounded by colorful bokeh lens effects that enhance the beauty of the snow-covered landscape.
A couple stands face to face in silhouette within a stone doorway at Lac d'Ayron. The image captures an Old World charm, framed by the castle's ancient architecture, highlighting their romantic connection.
A couple at Lac d'Ayron, captured in a tight, black-and-white face-to-face shot. The image highlights their intimate connection and the depth of their smiles.
In the dimly lit interior of Chateau Pape Clement, France, an engaged couple sits with eyes locked, face to face. The subdued lighting casts a mystery around them.

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Frequently Asked Questions

Q: Where can I find a photographer for a short-notice, small France wedding?
A: There are many WPJA photographers who are able to help you out at a moment's notice. We understand that sometimes love happens and there's simply no time to lose. We can ensure that you can get married as quickly as possible — and have incredible photographs to remember your France wedding day by.
Q: How can couples find reviews of France wedding photographers?
A: We call them Client Letters. At the WPJA, we decided more than 20 years ago to avoid incorporating those third-person testimonials and endorsements that are found all too often in advertisements. Instead, we elevated our listings with the use of Client Letters, which represent the actual words and feelings of the clients who booked those France wedding photographers for their own wedding.
Q: Who are the best France wedding photographers for small elopements?
A: The WPJA is proud to have some of the top France documentary wedding photographers for elopements. Our members are able to submit WedElope Stories that take you step-by-step, via a 9 image picture story, through the unique and moving elopements that take place around the world.

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RAVES, REVIEWS, AND France WEDDING PHOTOGRAPHER RECOMMENDATIONS

Wedding photo of couple exiting ceremony at Pernes-les-Fontaines - France

Ludivine & Renaud

Photo by Camille Ravel

From the moment we met you during our engagement session, we felt completely at ease in front of the camera. That time together really helped us relax and prepare for the big day—and it showed. Everything on the wedding day felt natural and smooth, thanks to your thoughtful preparation and calm presence. The photos you delivered are absolutely stunning. They beautifully reflect the emotions, atmosphere, and rhythm of the day. You managed to capture both the big moments and the quiet, meaningful in-betweens with so much sensitivity. We’re so grateful for your work and hope to have another occasion to work with you again in the future.

Abbazia di San Benedetto wedding photo of the bride and groom kissing

Marco e Federica

Photo by Fabrizio Demasi

Hi Fabrizio! How are you? I hope you’re fine! Thank you so much for the wonderful pictures you took at our wedding. Marco and I feel so grateful for your amazing job, you’re the best photographer we’ve ever met! You made us feel at ease the entire time and you truly captured unique and timeless shots. Your pictures are just perfect and we love them. You made our wedding so special and we still feel the happiness and the excitement of that day through your beautiful pictures. You didn’t miss anything and you captured unforgettable and priceless moments. You’re an artist and you didn’t disappoint our expectations. We can’t thank you enough! Our guests remarked how great you were. Unobtrusive, never in the way, always smiling, and with a good attitude. A heartfelt 'thank you’ once again! You did a great job! Marco e Federica

Amanda & David

Photo by Lyndsey Goddard

We received your wonderful gift of a USB stick yesterday and cannot thank you enough for what was within! They are just amazing - all of them. Just breathtakingly stunning! I cried when I viewed some of them as it was like re-living the day all over again (I cried then too of course). We are so pleased. I have had to look at them again and again as each time I do, I see more and more, which is an incredidle feat to achieve. Your mirror work is outstanding - what a talent. I have sent some to Emma and she is thrilled and even James liked what he saw - which is a first. We now have the task of choosing some favourites which will be very difficult. Thanks again for everything - for the day itself and your wonderful presence, and especially for the pictures which are just phenomenally brilliant. I have *** to thank as he wasn't available and recommended you, so if you see him do tell him. What a find you were, so pleased he was booked (don't tell him that bit!) Thanks again and take care and keep up the outstanding work. I shall continue to look at your blog and view your work as I have a deep appreciation of what you produce. In fact, to be able to re-produce emotions through pictures that will last forever is quite unusual and requires skill and talent. I have seen many other photographers sites and some do not really capture it.